Shop

[masta-t]

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ele/336341931.html

[jmelrose]

Last thing I need is more excuses to spend money and not work on my truck? 700 is halfway to a tig setup, plus all you bitches with nintendo skills would whoop on me :lol:

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Tomas just trade him for your Tron or Star Wars (vector) arcade game.

[bomber]

Tomas and BK, make your shop rent checks for June out to me; I paid for June's rent yesterday.

[bomber]

Don't want to waste starting a new thread about the shop....

I emptied approx 54 quarts of used oil from the shop at Autozone on Sat :D it was a crazy amount of black toxic waste pouring hahaha. But the craziest thing is if the other two containers with oil filters on them and those disgusting soiled boxes with bottles in them all contain used oil, then I only got rid of less than half of our total amount of used oil!

And I'm not going to bother asking whose it is, but whoever put bottles of something in 3 white plastic trash bags needs to take care of that crap because I was going to empty it and since it is in the used oil pile I assumed it was oil. Well it turned out to be some clearish liquid that smells insanely bad, I have a really strong stomach and this was very close to making me throw up. Please who's ever it is, clean it up and get it out of the shop, if that shit leaks all over it is going to be a nightmare getting rid of the intense smell and I don't know what the hell is clear like that and smells so wrong. Please just take care of it, we don't need to call you out or know who did it, but just for everyone's sake and not putting your disgusting garbage on someone else just take care of it sometime soon before it starts getting really hot in there.

Hopefully in the next few weeks as Tomas gets more of his fittings and things out of the boxes and on to his truck, we can do a cleaning day to get rid of a lot of the junk at the shop and make more room in there. I'm happy to take ppl's used oil out of there, because I change my oil a lot there and contribute quite a bit to the stock pile we have, and if I'm taking any used oil there may as well take as much as I can. If you guys put coolant or trans in a container then label it so we know what's up and dont dump it at Autozone and go Oh Scheisse!! hahaha.

[jmelrose]

Ha man I feel your pain, last time I did the mass oil dump the Autozone lady got all pissed at me for taking in so much :lol:

but yes we need to clean that shit up ... thanks dude

[masta-t]

Pretty sure engine oil and trans fluid can be mixed. Thats what the autozone guy told me like a couple years ago. Also i think im the only one with coolant, but we (I) can arrange a free drop-off with waste managment if someone can drive it over there.

[brian]

I'm pretty sure we'd have to schedule an appointment for the hazardous waste dumpage. How much fluids are we talking about here.

[bomber]

Well if those other two oil containers are full and the other bottles in the used oil area of the shop all contain oil, then approx another 55 quarts or so. I know that over by the fuse panel there is a Motocraft 5 quart bottle labeled Trans Fluid. I have about 2 gallons of coolant and will add from my Ranger in a 5 gal bucket under it right now. If Tomas has some stored coolant than that had to be added in.

Tomas, I don't know why the autozone guy would tell you that unless he knows that the warnings on the front of the used oil container at the store are incorrect, as there is a large USED OIL ONLY sticker on the front of it. If we can take trans there too then sweet, but the steekers say otherwise so we'll have to inquire about that.

I can't believe they didn't say anything to me cause I had to make three diff runs from the Volvo to the back of the shop each time with four 5 quart bottles.

Also, were the older Rotella bottles full of used oil? Their caps weren't seal and the oil in them was dark, but it had a hint of blue rather than the brown in used oil, and it didn't smell like anything. I dumped it so if this was good oil that happened to just be sitting in the used oil corner, my bad :D. Jesse what are you putting the Rotella in, your Ranger?

[brian]

So we've got another 55 quarts or so? How about next Saturday we make a oil/trash dump in my Ranger? I can't make it this Saturday.

[bomber]

I'm cool with that.

[masta-t]

So we've got another 55 quarts or so? How about next Saturday we make a oil/trash dump in my Ranger? I can't make it this Saturday.


i think you should try to get some money for the ranger instead of dumping it :D

[brian]

There's no sense in dumping a ranger that runs perfectly fine..........now rangers that don't run..... ;D

[jmelrose]

I use rotella in damn near everything, but the blue bottles that appeared recently were from my chevy, and yes they were dirty so it's all good.

I am pretty sure motor oil, gear oil, and ATF are all good together, at least I have been dumping em all together :lol:

[ua taco]

I think all "oils" - engine, diff, tranny - consist of very similar stuff and there is no wrong mixing them together, but don't quote me on it.
as far as anything else, such as coolant, break fluid, etc. - call 858-694-7000 and schedule an appointment (only for saturdays) at miramar. free for san diego residents, just bring your proof of residency - http://www.sandiego.gov/environmental-services/miramar/hhwtransfac.shtml . I've done it a number of times.

[masta-t]

i think it depends on where they are going. Some sites are saying dont mix any of those, some say just motor oil, tranny fluid, and gear oil can be mixed, and some say only motor and gear oil can be mixed. Probably have to call up the place they will be recycled at.

[grasinski]

I'm pretty sure you guys are all full of shit with the mixing, so I have consulted my old friends in the county recycling and landfills department. As far as I can recall, for recycling purposes, it is NOT ok to mix. If you do mix a ton of different kinds together, it is all just plain old hazardous waste, and somewhere waaaayyyyyy down the road, after it goes to the happy healthy safe hazardous waste disposal facility, it gets burned in China or dumped in the ocean and ends up killing baby seals or in your ground water giving you some health issue sooner than later.

So it's all a matter of whether you'd like to do your part or not. I will get official word/rules soon, so hang on to it; it might save you some money and time.

~your friendly neighborhood environmental engineer

[brian]

why's it gotta be baby seals? how about some sharks.

[bomber]

Score! I was just telling Ashley I thought you were studying environmental engineering, ha right again! :D

Thanks Christine. Like I was saying earlier, the very large steeeeeeekers on the front of the bin say USED OIL ONLY! so I interpret that as motor oil, gear oil, and diesel oil stuff. I try to be somewhat organized and wouldn't mix stuff in one container anyways for OCD's sake haha. That'd be cool to get an official word on this stuff for sure.

[masta-t]

called autozone. they take motor oil mixed with tranny fluid.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

cuz it's called "fluid" it can't be oil?? is that what I'm interpreting ur interpretation to be joser? I'm pretty sure u can mix any OIL and that includes the crap u guys already said, and if christine is correct, then that means autozone isn't recycling it they are just disposing of it according to regs?

[ua taco]

tranny "fluid" is still OIL, same basic chemicals as engine oil or gear oil, just different viscosity and additives

[grasinski]

ok enginerds, here is the answer direct from my old boss, in charge of managing auto recycling for the county.

"You are correct, oil must be kept separate, and actually it helps with the recycling if all are kept separate. They can go to www.wastefreesd.org or call the hotline for disposal options 1-877-713-2784."

Chances are that the autozone may be just disposing of the mixtures, and not recycling it.

[ua taco]

I am still not sure about this...
the website listed just says you can recycle "motor oil", but doesn't really say anything about tranny or gear oil specifically.
the ex-boss saying "oil should be kept separate" doesn't really clarify anything since as mentioned earlier - tranny fluid, engine oil, and gear oil are all "oils" composed of similar molecules; while coolant, break fluid, etc. are not which is why we are all sure they gotta be discarded as hazardous waste.

[masta-t]

Convincing Evidence1 (http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/usedoil/usedoil.pdf)


Convincing Evidence2 (http://yosemite.epa.gov/osw/rcra.nsf/0c994248c239947e85256d090071175f/F0B8EC25E3211E508525670F006BD6D4/$file/11225.pdf)


....both off of EPA's website.

Im gonna side with the EPA and Autozone.

in addition, Autozone is a state certified oil collection center and is also identified by the Dept of Toxic Substances Control of CA.


additional info for tranny fluid (http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/04/b4/b1/0900823d8004b4b1/repairInfoPages.htm)

[bomber]

cuz it's called "fluid" it can't be oil?? is that what I'm interpreting ur interpretation to be joser? I'm pretty sure u can mix any OIL and that includes the crap u guys already said, and if christine is correct, then that means autozone isn't recycling it they are just disposing of it according to regs?


That is an incorrect interpretation of my statement regarding my interpretation of the sticker posted on the front of the oil collection bin. My effort was to be very simple in its meaning and it was my simple, straightforward interpretation of the USED OIL ONLY sticker, which was that since they did not list tranny fluid then they didn't want tranny fluid placed in this collection bin. I followed my statement with a desire for an official word on the matter, because of the fact that I did not know if there was more meaning to the message on the sticker than my interpretation. Simply put, I knew there could be more to the sticker's meaning than my strict interpretation, as we've seen holds true by the attached information in these recent posts.

:D

Oh and thanks guys for posting up the links to information clarifying this petroleu-issue... I'll be here all night!

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

well why u gotta be racist? it only says "used oil only" not "used motor oil only" i wonder if they would take cooking oil

[bomber]

Hey look who's being RACIST now?! By cooking oil are you grouping the proud races of Olive Oil and Vegetable Oil with the poor and uneducated savage Canola Oil... ok I'm done :D.

*So we can conclude that Autozone's USED OIL ONLY steeker is ambigious to which specific lubricants can be poured into the bin*... yes I said lubricants!

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

which one do they use for refried beans?

[bomber]

That would be lard... yummmm :D

[grasinski]

the statement about keeping oil separate refers to engine/motor oil. it all just really depends on how much you care. mix 'em, its tougher to re-refine.

[jmelrose]

I don't see why I can mix dino and synthetic motor oils of all different grades and viscosities with different additive packages but I cannot mix them with similar non motor oils. I imagine most used oil is burned in furnaces and generators anyways at which point it really doesn't matter. The more difficult it is too recycle the more people are just going to dump their oil in their backyard

where is this re-refined oil going ... exxon superflow brand oil? :lol:

[brian]

I'd try dumping it on your favorite asphalt corner on a hot summer day, wait for the surface to cure under the sun, and feel what grip is like ;D

[bomber]

BK, what time u want to do the oil and clean up?

[brian]

As soon as I'm done with my dyno pulls, I plan on heading to the shop with the Ranger. Not sure how long these dyno pulls take but I'd like to get to the shop by 11-12pm......spend a few hours cleaning, setting aside the oil, etc. I'm not sure if I'll have time to go dump this at the recycling center, I got work at 4, but if you want, we can make an appointment anyways for around 2:30, 3 and I'll drop it off on my way home.

[bomber]

hmm, well I'm pretty sure my family is doing something for my mom around 1ish. I was planning on being there in the morning. I'm putting motor mounts on the red volvo. I'll do some cleaning and hopefully Tomas can come with me, he probably can't unless he gets a lot better by tomorrow, but I'll do what I can. Call me when ur heading over.

[brian]

Good lord, the SV's a hostel for black widows!

[jmelrose]

****in A are you serious? I though I got all of them out with the compressed air last time ... damn

[masta-t]

Im pretty sure we are going to find a black widow city when we clean out the shop :D

I just hope there are none hiding in my seats when i finally get the truck done haha

[brian]

Hostel = 2 black widows ;D

Anyone else going to the shop on Saturday?

[jmelrose]

not Saturday, but I will hopefully be there Sunday to work on the black widow hostel

[masta-t]

might be, but i have to get ready for next week.

Have to make steps for the super duty before my surgery :D

[brian]

I found lids for the 5 gallon buckets at Payton's, unfortunately, Autozone's 5 gallon buckets are smaller than the ones sold at Payton's. Next time I go back to the shop, I'll swing by Payton's and pick up their 5 gallon buckets. If anyone's going to be at the shop this week, you can toss in the oil filters, bottles, etc...into the black plastic bin sitting on top of the tubes. Just be sure to use one of the empty boxes next to the front door (except for the one with the leaf spring hardware ;D) or line it with garbage bags (it's Sean and Anna's black bin).

Maybe next Saturday I'll get a chance to dump this off at Miramar, depending on whether or not I get my oil in this week.

[bomber]

Thanks BK! Don't forget that Kragen takes used oil filters. I'm not sure if they'd let us bring in a large batch though, but they do take them.

[brian]

We have to make a trip to Miramar for the coolant, might as well make the most of that trip.

[bomber]

That's right, especially since you said they raised their prices.

[brian]

Where is there a Kragen's in Lakeside?

[bomber]

Wintergardens. It's in the same parking lot as Albertson's. If you're going N on 67, take the Wintergardens exit and go south, and it will be on your right in the same lot as Washington Mutual, Weinersnitzel(sp? :D), Albertson's, and Rite Aid.

[bomber]

Going to do a little more shop cleaning Sat morning. Anyone is welcome to come help me out ;)

[brian]

I'm gonna need some of you folks to swing by and help me figure out what's trash and what isn't. There's quite a lot of "stuff" in the shop right now :)

[jmelrose]

fyi, I plan to spend all day Monday at the shop organizing my crap so BK can get his truck there soon

[brian]

Sweet, I'll be there. Tomas? Jose?

[bomber]

Sweet. I'll try to run by over the weekend or possibly on Mon as well to do the same. I should be able to bring our trailor one of these days to load up scrap metal too.

[brian]

Anyone want to swing by the shop for a few hours Saturday morning and load up some trash? I want to dump off the oil if my Ranger doesn't blow up on the dyno afterwards :)

[bomber]

Sorry I didn't make it over. Busy busy weekend.

[masta-t]

bk did you still want to hang on to those stock front suspension parts? can load em up.

Going to try and make some kind of rack for the tubes. Also getting all that scrap organized/recycled. Did you guys take the oil stuff yet? Dunno if i'll get that far tomm.

[brian]

Don't worry about the oil. I'll take care of that one of these Saturdays....probably won't be this Saturday though.

You can toss the coils and the rotors. I'm gonna try and sell the lowers.

Thanks dude.

[bomber]

Haha so most of you guys know I had a long, frustrating night Friday prepping the Volvo for its rally debut. I forgot to tell you guys that during the night around 3 am, I flushed the toilet and it never stopped filling back up with water. I came back in after hearing it for a few min and the tank lid was dripping a lot. So I open the lid and this little plastic tube part ruptured and was spraying water inside. So i had to grab my flashlight and find the water shut off valve. Just another part to my fun filled all nighter...

Jesse how do we go about fixing this? Do we tell Kathy and she has someone fix it or do we just fix it and tell her what happened?

[jmelrose]

Unless it's something major we can just handle it ourselves

[bomber]

Shouldn't be hard. I doubt I can do it this week as my schedule is pretty crazy, but I'll get to it as soon as I can.

[jmelrose]

If I make it out there this week I will take a look, that thing has been acting up for a while I think

[bomber]

Cool sounds good.

Just remember the shutoff valve is just around the corner from the front door, next to the hose attached to the shop.

[masta-t]

Probably going to the shop today so i'll take a look. I kinda remember it doing somthing weird like that in the past.

[bomber]

I just remembered now that I left out the tools I used to work on the Volvo since I was in a big rush. I am going to stop by tonight after my class gets over around 9pm to clean up all the tools and also I still have BK's tools that he needs dropped off there.

So Tomas when you get there, don't mind the tools since I will put them away tonight. One thing you could do for me is put your big torque wrench back to 0 or I guess it's 50 ft lbs. Right now it's at 85 ft lbs for the lug nuts...

[bomber]

Time to get BK's truck in da shop! Let's do it this week. My truck can easily be moved around, we just need to open up so more space so we can rearrange as necessary.

[masta-t]

alright BK she's all ready for ya. Only catch is you have to get it done by the end of december :D

[brian]

Sweet. Maybe hit Barona's this week for celebration....niiiiice.

[jmelrose]

Haha I just got back from redistributing the shops trash through the many dumpsters of OB ... ****in A that was a lot on empty oil jugs!!

bk the one condition of moving into the shop is you must fixed the possessed toilet :lol:

[masta-t]

:D....goodluck with the toilet

Thanks for taking care of all that trash jesse.

Im down with barona. When do you think you're going to make it over to the shop to get your truck in?

[bomber]

+1 on BK moving in fee = fix tiolet! :D

I haven't been to Barona in a long time, sounds like a perfect place to celebrate haha.

Thanks for taking the jugs n trash Jesse, how many bag's flew out on the drive home??? lol

[brian]

I'll fix the toilet like I've used the shop the past 2.5 years :D

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

sweet, when's barona? not sure whats goin on this weekend, gonna start a new thread

[brian]

I can do barona tonight or tomorrow. Sounds like Friday's a little busy.

[masta-t]

might be workin late tomorrow......what time were you thinkin?

[brian]

Whenever. Barona closes at 10...yeah, I know what time they close, so what? ;D

[brian]

Whenever. Barona closes at 10...yeah, I know what time they close, so what? ;D

How does tomorrow evening sound?

[masta-t]

Jose and I wont be able to go until later probably around 8:30 or so if that. I would vote for going another night perhaps. We should try to hit up the brunch buffet, its pretty badass.

[jmelrose]

I'll be out there tonight to work on the chevy a bit, I can go after that. Otherwise I'm out till next week.

Bk if you come out in the ranger I can give you a ride back to your house after we get it in the shop

[brian]

Cool. I'll see you at the shop then.

[masta-t]

what time are you guys heading over to the shop?

[jmelrose]

I'll probably get there around 7:30 and need to change oil and fuel filter

[bomber]

Tomas, you and i need to go to the thing with mom in our own car so we can head over to the shop/barona right after.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

We should try to hit up the brunch buffet, its pretty badass.


yes great idea because we're all unemployed

[brian]

We should try to hit up the brunch buffet, its pretty badass.


yes great idea because we're all unemployed


I guess working for the government has it's downsides....like working on the weekends :D

[jmelrose]

right bk you never work on the weekends :lol:

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

right bk you never work on the weekends :lol:


hahahaha


http://www.youtube.com/v/-ACI1XnjUm8

[ua taco]

where is this thread going??? :D

[brian]

Haha. Good stuff right there.

Thanks for the help dudes. Time to get cranking before the hippies close the desert down!

[bomber]

HA! One day of having my interior stuff from my Ranger on Dezertrangers and they have a taker! He wants all of it too, anything I can give him.

[masta-t]

the shop now has an OBD II code reader for anyone to use. Apparently a law was passed preventing auto stores from allowing customers to loan the readers in CA.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

the shop now has an OBD II code reader for anyone to use. Apparently a law was passed preventing auto stores from allowing customers to loan the readers in CA.


sweet i been thinkin of buying one, thats a dumb law, it was good bidness for me to drive there, use it, buy parts

[bomber]

Had a scare at the shop this morning. I dropped off Justin's bike stand and when I went to turn the lights off, I saw a huge ass black widow guarding an egg-sac ON THE LIGHT SWITCH BOX! haha. It was on the underside of it so I grabbed a piece of tubing next to Tomas' truck and I went to smash it, but the stupid thing felt the tube hitting its web just in time to move up enough that I only hit its legs, in a flash it ran up the tube and touched my finger with its front leg. I threw the tube at the ground and the spider dropped to the ground. I ensured it could not threaten anyone again hahaha. Damn that was a bad start to the morning...

[doc]

Had a scare at the shop this morning. I dropped off Justin's bike stand and when I went to turn the lights off, I saw a huge ass black widow guarding an egg-sac ON THE LIGHT SWITCH BOX! haha. It was on the underside of it so I grabbed a piece of tubing next to Tomas' truck and I went to smash it, but the stupid thing felt the tube hitting its web just in time to move up enough that I only hit its legs, in a flash it ran up the tube and touched my finger with its front leg. I threw the tube at the ground and the spider dropped to the ground. I ensured it could not threaten anyone again hahaha. Damn that was a bad start to the morning...

??????Sounds like a good enough start to me......Jose 1, Spider 0

[bomber]

Haha that's true Doc, it could have been much worse. Definitely woke me up ha.

[brian]

I looked up predators of black widows. I thought it'd be a good idea to release a punch of natural predators to do some house cleaning.

One result was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_dauber but I don't think I could handle a bunch of wasps in the shop.

The other result was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anolis but I don't think they'd survive the heat, plus they'll probably crap all over the place. :D

Foot to the ground sounds like the better plan.

[jmelrose]

i take it you crushed the egg sac as well? nice work!!

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

haha next time wear the gopro..

[masta-t]

one day there's gonna be a huge one like in arachnophobia! watch out!! :D

[bomber]

i take it you crushed the egg sac as well? nice work!!

Not sure where it went, but I do believe it was crushed bc it was between the spider and my point of attack. I'll verify it's damaged and remove it from the shop tomorrow haha.

[masta-t]

a timing light has been added to the shop inventory for anyone who needs to use one.

[masta-t]

37deg flaring tool added for anyone wanting to use AN fittings for plumbing

[masta-t]

alright doods, i'm trying to come up with ideas for mananging trash without illegally dumping it into various bins. One idea is to talk with Cathy about having a bin brought to her place, but i could see some issues with that. My dad said we could bring a bag to our house every week. I think we could start with that and see how it goes. Some of the larger items need to be dealt with too, such as factory stuff, like dashes, panels, windows etc. I want to take some of the factory stuff i pulled to hwy 67 truck dismantlers. Prob take my old explorer axle there too. Oil is always an issue, we should take turns maybe every month or so taking it. I think BK has done the most, i'll take the next batch. I think another shop cleanup day is in order and then we can establish a good waste managment system. Its tough since we all dont use the shop equally (BK and Joser need to get their asses in gear and work on them trucks!) but we should establish a solid system on the waste dealings. Categories of waste are as follows:

Oil
Misc Fluids
Trash
Recyclables
Scrap Metal
Used parts

Trash, oil, and recyclables will be the most frequent, followed by scrap metal. Everything else prob doesn't need a system, but does need to be taken care of. When are you guys available for a clean up day?

[jmelrose]

I am out for the next 2 weeks but I agree that another clean up day is in order. For trash I think we are fine with taking it to my place or one if the many dumpsters in OB. My old axle can go too.

After one massive clean out I doubt trash will be much of an issue

[ua taco]

Tomas, BK, and I threw away all the regular trash and recyclables today. took a bunch of oil out too. so there is a start!

[masta-t]

ya, thanks for your help doods.

[brian]

Thanks for taking care of the trash Ilya.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

can you come to my house next to warm up for the big clean up ilya?

[ua taco]

I say you come to mine and we warm up there instead. :p

[bomber]

Shop still need a new jug of hand cleaner? Fast Orange 1 gal for $10 at Autozone.

http://www.autozone.com/images/MEDIA_ProductCatalog/m120009_p4-circular-r.pdf

[jmelrose]

Nope I got some a few weeks ago

[bomber]

Ok cool.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

found a new shop, really cheap rent and has fireplace




































http://www.snapixel.com/zoom/getfile/268856

[ua taco]

good location too - picturesque!

[masta-t]

does it have 220v?

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

power and air must be onboard. overnight parking ok

[masta-t]

thinking about getting this......

shop press (http://www.harborfreight.com/12-ton-shop-press-33497.html)

[jmelrose]

do it!! it would def come in handy for a lot of things and the dimple dies cant take too much more impact wrench abuse

[masta-t]

ok....i'll get it then. Prob first or second week in Jan.

[ua taco]

don't do it.
what exactly you need it for and have you won a lottery lately? ;)

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

having a press more accessible would be nice, but isnt 12T a little light for many pressing needs?

[masta-t]

don't do it.
what exactly you need it for and have you won a lottery lately? ;)

if i did, i would have a shop like the Herbst's :D

For an immediate use, i would like it for my leaf spring bushings so I dont have to leave the super duty on jacks overnight. Also the Focus wheel bearings need a press, and there are a couple other possibilities for the focus' front suspension that i might need it for.

Plus it would be nice to have one at the shop.

regarding the 12T, i'm not sure. I thought it would be sufficient for anything i'm thinking of right now. Billy you have any other ideas on what would require more than 12T?

[ua taco]

I had to use a 20 ton press a couple years ago to press out my front wheel bearings, so I would think 20 ton would be sufficient. some of those bearings are really hard to press out. I would think bushings should be easier.

I am not saying that a shop press is a bad idea, just saying that if you only need a press for very very occasional use perhaps your money is better spent elsewhere, considering that you can occasionally rent bearing press kit from autozone. But it's your money so obviously you do what you think is best.

BTW, I've used a press occasionally at work too if necessary.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

what tonnage was the press we had to use for my caster bushings ilya? I thought it was 50 or 70 whatever the biggest one was. I remember it was sexy time explosion when they finally went BOOM (removing)

I was looking at a press for a bit for doing those.. I just recall people saying on forums it's worth getting the big one so you dont eventually have to get 2 because you will end up needing more.

looks like the big jump is from 20 to 50T on harbor freight. i'd split this one with you if you are set on buying one, but this is backordered. maybe find it locally?
http://www.harborfreight.com/20-ton-a-frame-industrial-heavy-duty-floor-shop-press-37999.html



also regarding the lottery, that one he posted is only ~130, not the biggest lotto ticket ;)

[jmelrose]

Dang, if we had more room I bet we could find some awesome stuff at Chet Huffmans liquidation sale

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php/90123-Chet-Huffman-MotorSports-Swap-Meet-and-Sale-January-22

[masta-t]

well if there's serious consensus we could always make room! :D shop is due for an o-haul anyways.

havn't gotten a press yet.....whats the final input on appropriate capacity for our general needs?

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

i say bigger is better, u saw my offer

[masta-t]

Green Explorer will be departing tomorrow :party:

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

woohoo, party emoticons are getting some good use

[ua taco]

If my truck is parked along the main shop door (the big roll-up one) it will not be in the way, right?

[masta-t]

no, i just have to make sure they take the green one not the silver one :D

[brian]

Park it with headlights facing the roll up, preferable facing Tomas' truck.

[ua taco]

alright

[masta-t]

Park it with headlights facing the roll up, preferable facing Tomas' truck.


why? its not like you're going to be there, ooooooh daaang :D

but ya park it that way haha. also make sure you leave enough space for the engine hoist to move around in front of your truck.

[bomber]

Autozone has good sales right now including 1 gal of Purple Power degreaser/cleaner for $5.99 and a free 40 oz spray bottle of it w/purchase of the gallon.

http://www.autozone.com/images/MEDIA_ProductCatalog/m210023_january-circular-r-hot.pdf

[bomber]

Heads up, Kathy told me tonight that they are having a wedding for her son Ryan on the weekend of Aug. 26-28, so the access to trailers and driving to the back of the property will be restricted. This is the weekend before Labor Day so get your stuff done early and get your trailers out before Friday 26AUG if you're going to need them that weekend.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

I'm a be out there tonight zippin up some racks for Joel. and thinkin how i am gonna finish up my rack so I can get it the F out of there. He will provide coors light etc if anyone wants to stop by. likely 530-6

[masta-t]

what are the racks for Joel?

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

bolt on kayak racks for his taco. kinda like 2 lumber hoops

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

:success:

[ua taco]

nice quick work!

[evan]

Sweet dude. Obviously I'm not gonna make it. Still at work...:sadpanda:

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Sweet dude. Obviously I'm not gonna make it. Still at work...:sadpanda:

yes :sadpanda: indeed. good thing we're not salary or it'd be :sadpanda::sadpanda::sadpanda:

[masta-t]

I wouldn't advise using the exploding cutting wheels in the shop anymore :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311847_10100432893070644_3311421_56338877_2298961_ n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308379_10100432530711814_3311421_56332534_502113_n .jpg

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

OH SNAP! is that from the angle grinder I presume? wikid

[jmelrose]

Yikes!! Is there a brand in particular that sucks?

[bomber]

It was some cheapies BK got from NC, some "Made in China" specials it sounds like. If we just stick with the Home Depot ones or the ones Ilya got at Lowes (T thinks Dewalt) then we'll be good. The guard would have probably prevented T from getting dominated so if anyone goes to use those crap wheels again, I'd highly recommend reinstalling the guard.

Thanks again to Lucass for running over to the shop to close everything up, and even cleaning up the bloody mess for T.

Tomas, you gotta get a shot of the chunk of wheel still stuck in your bumper before it falls out or you take it out! :D

[volcomstone]

Man I help you out and you still spell my name wrong.. Haha... No problem on helping..

Lucas

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

i'll be there after work, not sure yet if that means 530 or 7...

scratch that, headache is telling me to go home, eat a burrito, and rest

[masta-t]

i'll be there after work, not sure yet if that means 530 or 7...

scratch that, headache is telling me to go home, eat a burrito, and rest

dang...i had a gnarly headache yest too. Anyways, i'll be at the shop tonight trying to get the light rack mounted and finish up wiring.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Heading out to the shop again today soon

[masta-t]

Shop doods, I'm going to start planning my move soon hopefully but want to ensure that all the items that are in the shop are itentified by owner/purchaser well in advance. Quick run-down of who's is what from the top of my head...please update this list accordingly. All the small tools and misc stuff we should figure out as well:

Mine:
Bender
1.5" die came with it (i dont remember if i got the 1", def not the 1.75")
Sheet metal break
Compressor (noser and I split)
Tool chest (noser and I split)
Benches next to tool chest, my truck, and near bathroom door
Fans
Bench Grinder
Bench Vice (stand is BK's handy work)
Air tools sans current impact gun
Corded Dewalt Drill
Tube rack
Big Red
Engine Hoist

Billy:
Welder
Angle Grinder
Chop Saw

Jesse:
Drill Press
Tube notcher
Rack on back wall
Impact Gun
Dewalt Cordless Drill

BK:
Plasma Cutter

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

does this mean you got the RHQ?

[masta-t]

does this mean you got the RHQ?

not yet....have the first approval again and hopefully have the second this friday. Current close date is 12/29 tho, but hopefully we can close before that.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

good luck man. this is going on a year or so ya?

[jmelrose]

Pretty sure I got the drill press but may have to check Cc statements to confirm

[masta-t]

Pretty sure I got the drill press but may have to check Cc statements to confirm

Noser said the same thing, and i think you guys are right. I remember picking it up, but you either paid me back or paid for it at the store. Did you get the notcher as well?

We're talkin like 2004 btw! for all those who want to feel old :D

[masta-t]

hey doods, just a heads up, i'm going to start moving things out of the shop this week.....

[doc]

hey doods, just a heads up, i'm going to start moving things out of the shop this week.....

does that mean ther's a ramona hq?

[masta-t]

does that mean ther's a ramona hq?

Affirmative....RHQ will be operational soon :D

[jmelrose]

Congrats again dude!

The notcher and drill press stay stay

I almost went to jail for speeding the day I picked up the 1" die so I am pretty sure I paid for it

[doc]

Affirmative....RHQ will be operational soon :D

berricool:cheers:

[brian]

oh...whaaa....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4HT3EQeis

[ua taco]

:borat: very nice!

I found this thing outside the shop...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/ua_taco/battery%20mount/P1010340.jpg

[bomber]

Awesome buy BK. Makes life much easier bending the big 1 3/4" DOM!

Ilya, that's a Jerusalem cricket. Ugly little buggers, and they jump too! A little venomous but not severe to us.

[jmelrose]

freakin sweet dude! does that bend count as working on your ranger?

[evan]

Nice bender. FJ really needs a rear bumper and swing out carrier.

Ilya that's a Jerusalem Cricket. Shitloads of them around La Jolla at night.

[doc]

Awesome buy BK. Makes life much easier bending the big 1 3/4" DOM!

Ilya, that's a Jerusalem cricket. Ugly little buggers, and they jump too! A little venomous but not severe to us.

That looks what we used to call potato bugs

[doc]

http://www.potatobugs.com/faq/index.html

[masta-t]

oh...whaaa....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u4HT3EQeis


sick.....i wanted to get that from the dude on DR, but i dont have any money :D you better get ur truck done now!

[bomber]

That looks what we used to call potato bugs

Yup, nasty little things. Was just reading wikipedia about them, apparently us Californians are the only ones to call them Potato Bugs (that's what we've called them my whole life as well.), they don't actually prefer potatoes, and they're not venomous like I thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_cricket

I remember when I was a kid, my dad would cut them in half, but the jaws and legs would still be moving around.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

nice job ilya
http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2009-08/48607772.jpg






to get back on track... BK are you up for a Sat AM shop meet to do some tire swapping /move your toolbox? if we can find some tables etc by then we can move those in too.

I'd be down for a general cleaning effort as well if there are more people who'd attend

[evan]

I'm down. Might not be able to do any lifting at the moment but I can do some general beer can pickup etc

[bomber]

I can't do Sat AM, but a cleanup is much needed, and this is a good time to reorganize the shop. I can do Sunday around noon.

BK, you want to move our trucks' positions around at all? We can figure out how we can give ourselves a little more room to work with.

[ua taco]

I can be there on sat am for cleaning

[brian]

I probably won't be able to make it there till 11 or 12.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

K well I have to do the tire stuff on sat cuz they're closed Sunday. Not sure if I wanna do 2 days there yet.. haven't done any playing in the dirt for a while

[brian]

Want to do the tire swap Friday night...that is get the tires off the truck and you can get them mounted on Saturday?

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

ya maybe

[masta-t]

u putting new tires on the goat or the yellow-mobile? :)

I can't be there sat cuz we're having the family housewarming, but I might be able to come down sunday if you guys will be there.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

lol for those who are afraid to be bilingual, "butters" is getting the rubber off BK's goldmember (pun intended)

sounds like sunday for the barber twins, and since they have the most misc ranger parts etc on the top shelves i feel it'd be useful to have them there, perhaps we should plan on sunday

BK i'm down to shoot for Fri wheel removal. You just manage and keep off those bloody toes, I'll do the grunt work

[ua taco]

I can't go on sunday
:fail:

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

I can't go on sunday
:fail:

is that when ur doin the family dez outing?

[jmelrose]

Nice I can be there either day.

Jose is your truck staying for now or are you planning on relocating it this weekend?

[ua taco]

is that when ur doin the family dez outing?

affirmative

[brian]

roger that.

[bomber]

Jose is your truck staying for now or are you planning on relocating it this weekend?

It's staying until Tomas is able to fix his Exploder, so not sure when it will be relocated. For now, I think BK and I should scoot our trucks a bit to make some room around them if he wants to. I think it would ease getting around and working on them.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

hopefully bk's truck is on casters by tonight


alright so joser can't get there till noon.. how bout we shoot for 10:30-11 breakfast burrito meeting?

[evan]

sounds good to me

[masta-t]

sorry can't go sunday afterall.....forgot someone is coming over to install 220V in the garage for the welder that i've been waiting for.

[eazyethan]

freakin sweet dude! does that bend count as working on your ranger?

:happy: time to start thinking about a haircut :success:

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

sorry can't go sunday afterall.....forgot someone is coming over to install 220V in the garage for the welder that i've been waiting for.

Can u come over before or after? It'd be helpful to confirm what's yours /pack it out. 220 install should be quick, trickiest part is picking a good spot to pound the ground rod

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

thanks for comin out when you had other stuff goin on T,

dang we got a LOT of shiz outta there, overall had to be one of the most productive weekends ever for me.

[brian]

Cropped from the panorama, from Ivan's Picyou:

http://i.picyou.com/tZT9SD.jpg

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Ilya and I will be @shop around 11 to do misc work

[ua taco]

all trash chemicals are now out - took it to miramar hazardous waste disposal.
big pile of metal that was in the middle of the shop is out too. recycling place closed too early so i didn't make it there in time, so I will drop it off sometime during the week (assuming nobody steels autoparts from the bed of my truck sooner :) ). any money that they will give me for recycling will go into cumulative shop rent unless somebody objects.

[brian]

Psi :)

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Psi :)
+1

or use it to buy general shop supplies ie cutting discs






on that note, here is a list of little things that I noticed lacking today:

Fire extinguisher
Anti spatter
Grinder wrench (if we dont find it soon)
Welding magnets (90deg)
Hearing protection
C clamps

[brian]

I bought a 90deg welding magnet a while back for the frame jacks, there should be one lying around somewhere.

[ua taco]

1040 lbs = $97.50

[bomber]

all trash chemicals are now out - took it to miramar hazardous waste disposal.
big pile of metal that was in the middle of the shop is out too. recycling place closed too early so i didn't make it there in time, so I will drop it off sometime during the week (assuming nobody steels autoparts from the bed of my truck sooner :) ). any money that they will give me for recycling will go into cumulative shop rent unless somebody objects.

Thanks Ilya! Told you not to do the metal! :D Too nice man, we really appreciate it.

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

1040 lbs = $97.50
I vote that you at least take your road toll fees out of that since none of that stuff was your trash to move anyway!

[bomber]

I vote that you at least take your road toll fees out of that since none of that stuff was your trash to move anyway!

+1

And go buy yourself a Los Rancheros burrito with that money too! :D

[ua taco]

thanks guys, but I am ok with putting all of this towards the shop supplies, since none of the metal is mine anyway. I will try to pick-up a few of the things from this list:

Fire extinguisher
Anti spatter
Grinder wrench (if we dont find it soon)
Welding magnets (90deg)
Hearing protection
C clamps

[eazyethan]

I vote that you at least take your road toll fees out of that since none of that stuff was your trash to move anyway!

and by road toll fees you mean traffic bail? ;)

[ua taco]

tool list for the shop?

DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted project which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing could get to it.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light . Also removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, 'Oh sh--!

SKIL SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation of blood-blisters.

BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle... It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.

VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside the wheel hub out of which you want to remove a bearing race.

TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood projectiles for testing wall integrity.

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly under the bumper.

BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to cut good aluminum sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside edge.

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out Phillips screw heads.

STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.

PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to make hoses too short.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

UTILITY KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while in use.

SON-OF-A-BITCH TOOL: (A personal favorite!) Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling 'Son of a BITCH!' at the top of your lungs. It is also, most often, the next tool that you will need.

[bomber]

LOL, these are hilarious and so true. Nice find Ilya.

[brian]

Two ton engine hoist all the way!

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

:D

[masta-t]

LOL those are spot-on!

[jmelrose]

Hilarious!

[volcomstone]

Haha that is great.. I think we have all done all of those at least once.. Haha

Lucas

Nice find

[evan]

Nice Ilya.

Some of my notable crap:

-4" Makita angle grinder with a wrench. I'll check to see if wrench fits other grinder
-quick grip style clamps
-1 wire shelving unit
-1 inflatable beer island/cooler
- some other shit I can't remember right now. I'll add to the spreadsheet once I have it all there and in front of me.

Is Mantequilla available on saturday to move my roll away into the shop?

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Is Mantequilla available on saturday to move my roll away into the shop?
TBD riding etc, but if it's here you're welcome to use/i might head out with you (could time it with going to RHQ)


reminder: bring your welding mask and spare lens covers

[ua taco]

I got big commercial fire extinguisher, ear muffs, magnetic right angle, and 2 4in c-clamps from scrap money!

[jmelrose]

Nice work dude!

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Ya Respek, thanks for doing that

[ua taco]

tube rack is complete! thanks for welding lesson, BK!

[brian]

Shelves:
http://i.picyou.com/mxHjth.jpg

Rack welded up:
http://i.picyou.com/zSQBR4.jpg

Tubes on rack:
http://i.picyou.com/isE637.jpg

Nice job on the rack. So much space now!

[bomber]

Nice work fellas! Thanks for getting all those supplies with the scrap money Ilya, pretty awesome what all that junk was exchanged for. :)

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

Nice. UPGRAYEDD

[ua taco]

do we need a shop vac?

[jmelrose]

Yes

[ua taco]

i got a small wet/dry shop vac on order kind of for free. we'll see if it works

[eazyethan]

is it from this guy in mexico?

[ua taco]

:D no

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

did the grinder come in?

[bomber]

Yup

[jmelrose]

yeah i put it together and made a mount for it, just need to get some hardware to bolt it down. I think some new locking casters are going to be required on the cart tho. The 8" is definitely a welcome boost in power. Billy did you get a wire wheel too?

[RIDEitINTOtheGROUND]

ya i ordered a wire wheel but it shipped separately. should be at obhq by now i'd imagine

[ua taco]

I got rid of the old battery by the door.

I also brought a small shop vac. it is tiny but it works. we'll see whether or not it is enough for our needs. it has a foam filter and a dry reusable filter that goes over the foam sleeve. please remove the reusable dry filter if you are going to use this vacuum to suck in any fluids - it is easy to remove, just lift the plastic ring holding it over the foam sleeve.

I also brought a bunch of black spray paint and primer. It is on the shelf where the rest of Jesse's cans are. Feel free to use it.

[evan]

Headed to the shop after work today to work on the FJ a bit.

[bomber]

Watch for spiders! :D